Task Force: Gamma

Marek · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:49 pm Post subject:

I believe the implication is that the Commander has not returned to duty yet, but maybe I have assumed myself into a burro.
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Captain David Brennon · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject:

Ok, timeline time. THis is why we have the Stardate tags at the start of scenes and the stardate calculator. Remember, not all of our scenes are going to be liner in nature... the way this type of gaming works makes it so we may have to jump around in time from time to time.

Hartington @ Class L World
Guardian Leaves DS9, enters GQ
Trill Riots, Qech passes out
Guardian/Hartington meet up

As for how many days are in between these things happening: Hartington's encounter at Class L World happened two days after entering the GQ. two days later the riots happen on Trill. One day later the two ships meet up.

Captain Marek, if I have your timeline wrong, please let me know.
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Marek · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:04 pm Post subject:

That's how I had it in my head. I will try to avoid too many things going on at once, but sometimes to keep the story going and let the previous events play themselves out these situations are going to happen.
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uvek · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject:

so, Commander Qech is passed out the day before the two ships meet, yes? I just am lagging a bit here, I think.....I understood that it all happened the same day that the ships met....sorry.
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Liam McTavish · Task Force Crewman Joined: 03 Sep 2009 Posts: 286

Ok so before I go to much further. Is the general consensus that I was completely wrong in assuming Duty Officer on the Bridge?
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uvek · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:29 pm Post subject:

Well, that is the captain's call. I for one believe the watch officer is a "fill-in" slot, as you say, but when there is a superior ranking officer on deck, that officer always has the command position.

I remember an episode of TNG in which Counselor Troy was forced into command, even though technically she was not a starfleet officer. She carried the rank of Commander, and even outranked O'Brien and Ensign Roe.

Anyway, just my 2 cents!
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Marek · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:37 pm Post subject:

I think McTavishes flogging will be great Drama, Q would probably eat popcorn while he watched. Seriously tho, I think it fits the character, I don't think you'll get pushed out of an airlock.
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Captain David Brennon · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:45 pm Post subject:

Yes. I think that he [McTavish] was in the wrong. That said, it may have been the right thing for him to do character wise and we need to always remember that when it comes to Star Trek, Character is the most important thing. Character drives everything we do. You didn't do wrong, remember that. McTavish on the other hand... I think that he'll have a bit of a tongue lashing, a dressing down from the CO, thats mostly about it.
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Davynn Qech · Graphics Chief Joined: 16 Jun 2009 Posts: 809

I think it's a good thing that the Ensign got a bit presumptuous in the name of protocol. Someone so fresh out of the Academy is bound to make mistakes like that for what he thinks is the greater good. It's a character flaw that you as a player can grow and work around and makes the game more enjoyable, and the character more interesting. Everyone's character is going to f*ck up. From the lowest Cadet, to the Captain. Flawlessness is boring. I like where you took the scene, so long as you don't take your character's punishment personally.
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Liam McTavish · Task Force Crewman Joined: 03 Sep 2009 Posts: 286

Ok apologize across the board then. As I PMed Calodan, I let personal experience from my life in the Navy (Where even though I was a Sonar Tech and we had our own little room. We did a lot of cross training and I have stood Bridge watch as Helmsmen.) over shadow what I know of Star Trek. Instead of arguing I should have edited out the post that was made while Calodan was responding to mine.
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Marek · Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:58 pm Post subject:

NO I think you should stand by the post. I believe what I have seen of McTavish makes the post seem realistic, I could see him walking on to that bridge looking at Calodan at that moment an having an oh sh!t what do I do moment. And being inexperience he blew the situation out of proportion. Great learning experience, I like it. He'll have to kiss up to Calodan for awhile to make up for it too it will be great.
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ArjimCalodan · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:06 am Post subject:

Nah, Calodan won't hold a grudge. And I too agree that you should stand by the post. The point is to be UNperfect and realistic.
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uvek · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:10 am Post subject:

I think the post adds to the general sense of confusion in the scene....no problems from this quarter.
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Liam McTavish · Task Force Crewman Joined: 03 Sep 2009 Posts: 286

Well that may be the problem. Yes Its something that McTavish would do and 'In Character' most likely but I (Lawrence) need clarification on. Its something that is never really expressed in the Tv or movie because the main cast of characters are most always on screen. So in away 2nd and 3rd watches are never addressed.
In real life
Rank Structure is very linear. Captain to Ensign.
Watch Structure is not so linear. I found this link that explains it better than I can: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/navy/unit/watch.htm
Specifically: Watch / Section

The operational organization aboard a ship is the watch organization. Whereas the Department/Division organization is designed to maintain equipment, train and administer to the various groups of personnel, the watch organization is designed to conduct and coordinate the actual around-the-clock operations of the ship.

A comparison of the administrative organization and the battle organization indicates that the division of personnel in administrative departments closely approximates that found in the major battle components. However, to meet the requirements of sound organization principles, the administrative organization structure must allow for the carrying out of certain functions which have no place in battle. In the day-to-day routine, the needs of training and maintenance are emphasized, and certain support measures are necessary for administrative reasons.

The Standard Organization and Regulations of the US Navy (SORN) applies to all members of the US Navy. It lists the duties and responsibilities for almost every billet and watch station in the Navy. It also gives regulations on which to base unit and watch organizations. No portion of the SORN is intended to contradict or supersede any portion of Navy Regulations. Many articles in the SORN and Navy Regulations appear to say the same thing; but they are separate directives, and both apply to all members of the naval service. SORN defines a watch as any period during which an individual is assigned specific, detailed responsibilities on a recurring basis. Watches on board ships are set both in port and underway. Commanding officers establish the watches required for the safety, security, and proper operation of their command.

The watch organization is ordinarily divided into three similar groups called sections. At any given time one of these sections "has the watch". Each watch section is headed by the Officer of the Deck [OOD] who carries out the Commanding Officer's orders during the hours of his watch. It is the Officer of the Deck who orders the ship's course and speed, and conducts all combined shipboard evolutions. The OOD is assisted by a second officer, the Engineering Officer of the Watch, who controls the propulsion plant and all engineering evolutions in the propulsion plant.

Each watch section consists of helmsmen (who steer the ship), throttlemen (to control the steam turbine engines), sonar operators (who silently probe the ship's outer environs), missile technicians (to service and launch the submarine's missiles), radio operators (who continually maintain an invisible link with command centers ashore), and electricians (who supply power from the reactor for virtually every service on the ship). These watchstanders, among others, stand alertly by their equipment and stations throughout the duration of each watch.

The tempo of the watch is the heartbeat of the ship and, since one third of the crew's time is spent standing his watch, it is also the principal determinant of the day to day routine.

I understand Star Trek handles things different I just defaulted to years of training.

I was reading through the scene and all of the 1st watch personal were scattered across the ship. or in the case of Calodan not looking to be in any shape to do much. McTavish would have just come off of watch and probably on his way to bed. But repeated calls to medical would have gotten him curious and he would have headed to the bridge to see what was happening.

lol im not worried about punishment for McTavish. I am worried about stepping on others toes. From now on ill go with anyone with more pips is in charge on the bridge.
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ArjimCalodan · Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:29 am Post subject:

More pips is usually a good plan. Star Trek break's from Navy ranks (come from a Navy family m'self) a bit and you're right, a lot of stuff isn't explained.

No worries, you didn't make me angry. I was a bit confused, but decided to roll with it and looking at it, it's part of your character. You're right outta Academy, and you'd be all rules and regs on me.
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