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Uvek and the Cryonic Emitter/ An exploration of position

 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:49 pm    Post subject: Uvek and the Cryonic Emitter/ An exploration of position Reply with quote

I'd like to address Uvek's creation of the Cryonic emitter and try to put it into perspective. Since introducing the weapon, we've seen more than 20 posts in other storylines and only a scrape on this subject. I thought sure that this weapon would be received with, at very least, some sense of interest, but I am rather inclined to think that I may have stepped on toes (once again) and reacted in a way not totally forseen.

I think one thing about star trek that always comes through is the ingenuity of overcoming threats and new challenges. Every episode deals with overcoming and creating a method of exploiting an enemy's weakness. From the Borg to the Dominion to Species 8472, the trek gang has never met a challenge it didn't overcome. That brings me to Uvek.

He is at once Chief Tactical Officer and Head of Security, as well as a Romulan with years experience in exploiting an enemy's weaknesses. As CTO and Security chief, I feel he is the first and foremost line of defense of the Hartington and its crew. As a former Romulan spy, I think it would be second nature for him to seek out and try to exploit any weakness. He would do so by being aware of his surroundings and conditioned to notice things others might not.

That brings me to the Synaptic Induction episode. The whole purpose or line of thought behind it was to protect the Hartington while learning from the Tal'harton. While it was circumvented and made ineffective, I don't feel it was tactically an error, nor the course Uvek would not take again if things repeated themselves. Subconsciously Uvek would be assimilating everything he could (though really all he could gather was the beatings, the heat, and the actual serpentine nature of the Tal'harton). However, once brought back to himself, he would naturally assimilate this information and I think it would go to what was posted from their first encounter and my opening statement.

Anyway long story short, I think this weapon is viable, based in science fiction and techno fact, could work and I think it allows us to have a defense that explores the ST universe. I mean, if a starship can de-evolve and we can have meta-phasic shielding, the cryonic emitter should fit right in.

Just blowing off......I am by no means less enthused about this simm than I was before, just concerned that Uvek doesn't seem to be hitting his stride with many of his ideas, and maybe I don't understand the train of thought every time. However, if character drives the story this is how I see his character.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally understand your character, and I'm sorry if I haven't had the opportunity to give all due attention to your secondary storyline. It's been rather hectic for me of late and I don't want you to think that I'm ignoring you.

That said, Brennon isn't inclined to use the weapon. The way it was described to him seems to be cruel to the enemy, specifically tailored to wound and/or kill them. I can't imagine how it feels to have the moisture sucked out of my body or to have the cold attack me and I'm warm blooded!

Yes, other Captains have used methods similar to this before (Voyager against Species 8472 for instance), however Brennon isn't Janeway and the Federation has laws against that kind of, for lack of a better word, torture.

I will get to this in game as soon as I can. I have the next two days off (thank you walmart) and will try to get myself caught up. I hope I've made my position clear and concise without any offense.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well, thanks for that feedback. I think the weapon can be tailored, based upon chemical composition, to create a cold that would at least hinder them or cause confusion.

Let's not forget, Dr. Crusher sent a solar flare into a borg ship to destroy it, and there are a myriad examples of DS9 warfare that would fall into this category. However, in my mind it was a way of sending them a wakeup call and maybe rescuing some races held hostage by them, without putting a TR-116 round through their skulls.

That said, I'll drop it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are going to be a lot of loose threads, the prisoners left at their camp for instance. This isn't going to be our last encounter with them, they are our major enemy, our Klingon or Kazon or Jem'Hadar. Not only that but we can't even get back to that particular station, Mr. Calodan collapsed the tunnel that let over a hundred light years away so even if we wanted to go back it would take a great deal of time to just get there.

As I said before, I don't think that Brennon would authorize the use of a weapon like that. A Phaser is one thing, it can either stun or kill quickly. The TR-116 is pushing it to be honest, but it was an intrinsic part of Koester's character. Just because others have used immoral tactics to win out doesn't mean ever Captain will. Let's not forget, Captain Picard refused to use Hugh as an agent of destruction against the Borg, he also had a terrible experience being tortured by the Cardassians. No self respecting Star Fleet Officer should resort to torture. Period. Upon their first encounters with any of the hostile races, the Federation didn't immediately go straight for WMDs, nor should they. Not only this but the Federation looked into alternatives when their own weapons did nothing. Standard hand phasers have proven effective against the Tal'Harton in the past and we haven't actually had a protracted space battle against them to learn their capabilities other than when our own ship was badly damaged.

I understand your frustration, I really do. I would like to help fix it, if I can. I will make a greater effort to incorporate your ideas into the overarching storyline, however I do have a story planned out where we all will get a chance to face off with the Tal'Harton. They aren't going anywhere and your character's ingenuity can and will be used.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I did not see it as torture. I saw it as having a number of levels. The ones described of course would be the extremes. I think the weapon still has merit. So far the Tal'harton have been able to resist our phasers, don't seem worried about our technology at all, and I just wanted to put something unique on the table that might sway the outcome without anymore crew being subject to useless abuse. We still have learned nothing about them, while they seemed to have gained all kinds of knowledge through Dr. Newell. I think it would interest the captain to throw them a curve ball. As Riker said "we need to show them that we can adapt, too."

Anyway, I accept the decision from the captain. I'm a little frustrated, but that's natural and not personal. Most of Uvek's ideas either seem to be poor or just useless, and that gets me to wonder if I reallly understand the thinking at times. Post it whenever you can. I'll drop the idea.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The comment about the phasers is just not true. Our first encounter with them was in a planetary atmosphere so our weapons and shields were of limited function, when they boarded the ship during that same encounter they were stopped and put into holding cells by crewmen using hand phasers. During our second encounter with them they showed a distinct lack of ability to defend against our transporter technology, though this may have been an anomaly. Our fight against their fighters was inconclusive because our vessel was already heavily damaged. Riker was saying that particular quote about the Borg, a menace that had shown a nigh invulnerability to federation weapons. The Tal'Harton have not been seen as a threat on the scale of the Collective. In fact in one of your own posts you suggest that our weapons would "rattle their cage".

With regard to torture, I don't think you and I are going to see eye to eye on that particular distinction.

Your ideas are not bad, you just had a handful of ideas that didn't pan out the way you would have hoped for. You've also had ideas that worked well (in the same encounter with the Tal'Harton I just referenced back in September). Just remember, you can't win 'em all. I understand your frustration, but you can't get hung up on it and just remember that whatever is going on to irritate you in game won't last forever.

Also be glad you're not Calodan... his idea to save the ship killed millions of people and now he hangs his head in shame. I'd rather be wrong than right in those circumstances!
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